Re: IML: 1960 serial number, custom or crown

["Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, "102791" is the 2,971st car off the line.  If the first car was
100001, then 100011 is the 11th. -

1st - 100001
2nd - 100002
3rd - 100003
4th - 100004
5th - 100005
6th - 100006
7th - 100007
8th - 100008
9th - 100009
10th -100010
11th - 100011

The 2,971st car would have been at the very end of September as 383 were
built in August and 2,663 in Sepember, totalling 3,046 (or 100001 to
1003046).

And your car, 116664, would be the 16,664th car off the line.

Serial number ranges are inlusive, that is the first number is included as
is the last number.

As 17,703 Imperials were built for 1960, all at the Imperial plant on Warren
Avenue (formerly DeSoto and before that Graham-Paige), the numbers would run
100001 to 117703.    Your car would have been built at the very beginning of
June, 1960, as the last 1,129 cars were built in that month (116575 to
117703) with no production in July.  The sheduled build date would be listed
under "SO NUMBER" (Shipping Order Number) on the data tag under the hood.
The four digits under the "SO" are for the Scheduled Build Date.

Finally, the digits quoted in the original post are the machined-stamped
raieed digits.  There should be two hand-stamped digits before the eight
digits quoted -
9 - Imperial
1 - for Custom / 2- Crown / 3- LeBaron / 9 - Crown Ghia
The first two digits were added as the car came  to the end of the assembly
line.  During the 1960's Chrysler used the Shipping Order Number as the
tracking number up to the point the VIN tag was attached to the car.   Which
is why you will find the SON stamped on the body during the 1960-1968 era
and not the VIN.   The VIN was also not stamped on the data tag under the
hood until 1969 while the VIN did not appear on the engine or transmission
until mid-1968.

However, if it was a CKD export unit, it may only have the machined-stamped
digits.  I have seen other export Chrysler products assembeld overseas with
only the machined -stamped portion of the tag and nothing else added.
Many times an additional tag was added with a local VIN - Chrysler Australia
(1950's) and Chrysler Great Britain (1930's) went that route.


Bill
Vancouver, BC




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob van der Es" <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 1960 serial number, custom or crown


> HI Anthony,
>
> Well, if if starts with 9204 it is a Crown! Just like mine, your serial
> production number is 102791 and they started with 100001.
> So that means your car is an early 1960 model, # 2790 to be exactly.
> I bet it came with a generator instead of an alternator.
>
> The production # on my car is 116664, so this is a late 1960 model :
> productionnumber 16663.
>
> My car came thus equipped with an alternator:)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Robert
>
>
> Op Ma, 6 maart, 2006 1:10 am, schreef ajl:
> > Guys;
> >
> >
> > I have a 1960 Imperial 2 door in storage. The vin number on the title
and
> >  on the vin plate is 04102791. Is this a crown or custom?
> >
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >



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