Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors

["Rob van der Es" <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks again Tom, for your very interesting suggestion.
I think it is worth to investigate if he can do the job for me.
I will forward the message to fellow IML member Charles Rex, who has the
reflector at the moment.
And ofcourse I will let you know what we decide to do!

Robert


Op Wo, 2 augustus, 2006 7:29 pm, schreef Tom Scott:
> I visited a guy in PA 2 weeks ago who does 'metallization'..(his term).
> He
> had some potmetal and plastic parts he did for a 60 Caddy and a 70isn
> Nova.
> I held the pieces next to the polished stainless and the recently
> rechromed front bumper on my 60 Crown and I would challenge anyone to tell
> the difference.  The problem with the coating versus the plating is the
> hardness of the finished surface.  Obviously the coating isn't as hard as
> plating so it is susceptable to stone chips, itc.  For interior pieces or
> parts not in the path of an errant stone such as the Flitesweep reflector
> I think the
> coating is a very viable alternative.  I had a quote from NEL in Philly
> for a bunch of my parts that need replating.  The coating process was
> about half the cost.   The website is attached.
> http://www.coatofchrome.com/default.php
> Tom
> 60 Crown Southampton
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob P" <fristpenny@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors
>
>
>
>> That's cheating.  That XJ Jag isn't painted, it's polished aluminum.
>> There
>> are some decent "chrome" type paints, but nothing too good.  There is a
>> guy with some kind of plating that chromes fiberglas that looks real
>> good (have the link someplace) but it probably costs more than getting
>> the pot metal replaced.
>>
>>
>>> From: Kenyon Wills <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: IML: 60 Imperial reflectors
>>> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 08:37:54 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you have a case of beer under your arm when you
>>> walked in the door?
>>>
>>> Was the machinist an older man - at or past retirement
>>> age?  This is a project for someone with some smarts, patience, and
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Don't let that bad experience get you down.  Keep
>>> looking is my advice.  I'm personally very leery of pot-metal repair.
>>> You might be ahead buying a
>>> drilling tool, grinding out the pits yourself, and then learning how to
>>> melt brass into the divots and grind it down.
>>>
>>> Thats "all" they do.  Pain in the behind, if you ask
>>> me. - Especially for an item that need only pass casual scrutiny.
>>>
>>>
>>> One other suggestion:  Use a wheel to grind the
>>> surfaces flat/smooth.  Perhaps on a Dremel tool or something. Fill voids
>>> with body filler, and go to an automotive paint place.  They have
>>> paints that are "almost" indistinguishable from chrome.  You can use
>>> your sand-blasted piece for this one.
>>>
>>> http://img26.exs.cx/img26/8163/jaguar-xj0367.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> So much of what determines success in life is who you
>>> have helping you.  Most places within 100 KM of you won't be worth
>>> talking to.  You have to search.
>>>
>>>
>>> Either way, best of luck in your mission - let us know
>>> how things turn out and how painful the solution was?
>>>
>>> --- Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> You are right about that Kenyon, the problem however
>>>> is that machinists are often to busy (at least in my area) to have
>>>> time to reproduce this disc.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried several but they were all to busy to
>>>> even look at it.. And one shop ruined even my original disc when they
>>>>  sandblasted it!
>>>>
>>>> That is why I ordered another one from Lowell, and I
>>>> am now trying to find me a decent shop that can handle potmetal so
>>>> that this one won't be destroyed!!
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op Wo, 2 augustus, 2006 7:05 am, schreef Kenyon
>>>> Wills:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that the topic here is the disc that goes
>>>>> under the emblem in the center of a flightsweep
>>>> decklid.
>>>>>
>>>>> If so:  Why pay $500,000 to have that reflector
>>>>> repaired?
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems to me that you could have a talented
>>>>>
>>>> machinist
>>>>> reprduce a new one out of a steel blank and have
>>>> it turn out PERFECT and
>>>>> ready to be plated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not looked at mine lately, but those pot
>>>>>
>>>> metal
>>>>> folks charge a fortune, and there's no assurance
>>>> that your restored
>>>>> potmetal won't sprout more dimples in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kenyon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Henry Hopkins <hhrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you talking about the chrome pieces that
>>>>>> surround a red plastic reflector on the tips of
>>>> the rear fins???  If so,
>>>>>> when you get the chrome piece fixed, George
>>>> Laurie
>>>>
>>>>>> Georgelaurie@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> makes reproduction reflectors that are superb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are not talking about those pieces, excuse
>>>>>>
>>>> me
>>>>>> for the intrusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Henry Hopkins, 60 cvt.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Regis Bodnar" <arbie104@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: IML: Looking for a potmetal repair
>>>>>>
>>>> shop
>>>>>> in the New York area
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul's Chrome in Evans City, PA can repair it
>>>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> re-plate it...they are
>>>>>>> not cheap, but guarantee everything for life and
>>>>>> use show quality
>>>>>>> chrome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Behalf Of Rob van der Es
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:03 PM
>>>>>>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: IML: Looking for a potmetal repair shop
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> in the New York area
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi fellow imperialists!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to restore a trunklid reflector for
>>>>>>>
>>>> my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1960 Imperial, my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fried and fellow IML member Charles Rex (who
>>>> also
>>>>>> ownes a 1960 Imp) has
>>>>>>> obtained a reflector from Lowell but this one is
>>>>>> heavily pitted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This became visible after removing the old
>>>>>>>
>>>> chrome
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> plating.
>>>>>>> What I am looking for now is a shop that can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> repair the pinnholes and
>>>>>>> some craters in the potmetal. After the repair
>>>> it
>>>>>> can be copper plated
>>>>>>> and rechromed by any plating company, but the
>>>>>> problem is that not many
>>>>>>> know how to repair pot metal..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know a good repair shop in the New
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> York area that can handle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> potmetal (zamac) ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert van der Es
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Kenyon Wills
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