Re: [FWDLK] Engine Info

[Joseph Bouboulis <Joseph_Bouboulis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

David,

Your info has been most helpful to me as well, but I'm a little confused.
When you say that either engine (270 or 277) should fit no problem do you
mean that they will bolt in as long as you have the correct frame and
engine mounts or do they share the same frame mounts and just use different
engine mounts? I assumed that since the hemi and the 270 share the same
block then they would also share the same mounts. But when I measure from
the trans bellhousing face to the mounts there is about a 1 inch difference
between my hemi block and my 277 (hemi is longer). The other possibility is
I'm way out in left field because I have a Dodge 354 truck hemi and maybe
that's why my mounts are different. I mean I know the timing cover is quite
different for the truck engine.

Any info is much apreciated.



                    David Homstad
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                    05/14/01 01:39 AM
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                    David Homstad







Joe,

Some answers to smoe of your questions,

1. A 1956 to 1961 301/303/318/326 A series engine should fit with no
problems. The 1956 to 1958 Dodge 270/315/325 Poly/Hemi engine should fit
with no problems.
Earlier (pre 56) engines had a front motor mount system and I do not think
they are equiped with cast motor mount bosses on the sides of the block.
Since the 56 Plymouth has essentially the same frame as the 55 Plymouth and
the 56 had a front mounted 6 cylinder, there may be frame provisions that
might accept the front mounted earlier engines. I would suggest moving
forward in time if possible. The early 318 is by far the most commonly
available, and easiest to get parts for. It even looks like the original.

2. The 6 cylinder uses a completely different steering linkage system.
Probably to clear the oil pan.

3. The original trans will fit any 1953 to 1961 engine in the list above.
In 1962, a major change was made to the way the crankshaft mates to the
transmission. Make sure you use a new torque converter seal.

4. Unless you are creative and mechanically skilled, I would suggest
keeping things as simple as possible. Forget the C***y idea. You would need
to fabricate custom motor mounts, use a GM tranny, fabricate tranny mounts
and linkage and drive shaft modifications, etc.

5. The only minor issue if you use a newer engine might be the mounting of
the power steering pump and generator.

6. When you find a prospective engine, you might ask the list to confirm
the engine really is what the seller thinks it is. Get the serial number of
the block.

Good luck,

Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500

----- Original Message -----
From: joe frega
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 3:23 PM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [FWDLK] Engine Info

Hi all,

Once again, I'd like to personally thank everyone who
responded to our "sad tale".  So many of you have been
so helpful.  Thank you all.  Collectively, you have
restored encouragement and optimism that Jason's car
will run again - somehow!

I'm still looking into several options at this point.
Here's today's questions.

1. Will an older 318 or 270 fit into the 56 plymouth
without modification? (motor mounts, etc)

2. Is a six cylinder and option also?  We have power
steering, not brakes, no air.

3. Will the trans from our 277 fit a 318 or 270 or do I
need to get a trans with another engine if it is a
diferent size?

4. So far I have found three engines in various state of
repair/quality.  I'm still looking for more options
but I guess I need to know how flexible with engines I
can be (trans fitting, engine fitting, etc.).  Some
have suggested to just get any engine/trans that runs
good and put it in (like a 283 C---y or something.  Is
this possible.  How hard to modify drive train?

As you can see, I need some more knowledge and
information before I buy anything.

Thanks again.

Joe & Jason
56 Belvedere(s) (soon!!)

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