Re: [FWDLK] Brakes- when to upgrade if U can lock em?

[bevacqua <tonysru2@otn.net>]

Check with someone who does brakes for aircraft.  Asbestos may still be
allowed for airplanes.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Graefen <wgraefen@OMNIGLOBAL.NET>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU <L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Brakes- when to upgrade if U can lock em?


>I have to agree with Karl Peterson.
>It is ALL about arcing the linings to fit the drums.  This means
>cutting the lining on a machine that follows an arc so that the
>lining comes in full contact with the drum.    I have a service
>bulletin that says the linings should be cut slightly UNDERSIZE
>of the drum so that the center of the lining hits the drum first
>and the rest is then pressed into contact.  .010 to .024 is
>recommended.  When I have linings done I ask for a consistent
>.015 undersize on all of them and that the drums also be cut
>equally.
>Arc grind is also called contour grinding.
>Many shops gave up their arc grinding machines when the EPA said
>they could no longer grind on asbestos linings but call around,
>some place in your area still has a machine.
>I have no complaints whatsoever about any of the brakes on
>several forward look cars that I have had over the years that
>have been arc ground.
>The magazine articles from that time are wrong.  The brakes
>simply need to be set up right to be equal and superior to
>anything from the other companies.
>
>Wayne
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Hullinger" <hullinger@EARTHLINK.NET>
>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:30 PM
>Subject: Fw: Re: [FWDLK] Brakes- when to upgrade if U can lock
>em?
>
>
>I've got to agree with Lars in that the braking performance of
>50's vintage
>Chrysler products just plain stinks.
>
>Up to a few years ago, I had a '63 Chevy Biscayne which would
>out brake by
>'58 Dodge any day, even though the entire brake system on the
>Dodge is new
>or rebuilt.  Also, I had read some original Motor Trend articles
>from the
>'50's blasting all Chrysler cars for poor brakes, as compared to
>GM cars.
>
>Any opinions,
>Chris
>
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: karl peterson <nitekatt@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Brakes- when to upgrade if U can lock em?
>
>
>> >From: David Homstad <dhomstad@FIELD-WORKS.COM>
>> >Reply-To: David Homstad <dhomstad@FIELD-WORKS.COM>
>> >To: L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU
>> >Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Brakes- when to upgrade if U can lock
>em?
>> >Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:11:54 -0500
>> >
>> >Lars,
>> >
>> >When I replaced the original brake linings on my Dodge, I
>noticed a
>> >significant drop in the braking and a serious increase in
>pedal pressure.
>> >This is due to the modern brake linings mandated by our
>friends at the
>EPA.
>> >No more asbestos. I then installed an original 56 power brake
>set up. The
>> >car now stops just like a modern car with normal pedal
>pressure.
>> >
>> >Does anyone know where to find information on the different
>types of
>lining
>> >materials available today? Do hard long lasting "premium"
>linings
>designed
>> >for power brakes cause this? Would less expensive linings be
>softer and
>> >require less pedal pressure? Do we care if they only last
>30,000 miles
>> >instead on 60,000 on a car driven 1000 miles a year?
>> >
>> >Dave Homstad
>> >56 Dodge D500
>>
>>
>> Pardon me for buttin' in, but have you considered the
>possibility that
>> whomever installed the new shoes didn't bother to arc them to
>the drums?
>> (Probably doesn't know how, if it was one of these kids
>nowadays that just
>> slap things together).  At least that is what it sounds like
>to me.
>>
>> Karl <61 300G>
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